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In response to https://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/776511196329566210

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@jwildeboer @nextclouders Really glad about the debate. Let me take a bit more than 140 chars to answer!

Indeed we are not open source, we are a free software shop, but I understand that some people can confuse :P

So yes, we offer Free Software as a Service. Among them, we offer https://rocket.chat/. The price is 100€/year for one instance. (check the prices of Slack also :) )
You can read an interview of us here: https://rocket.chat/blog/viva-liberte-indiehosters-supporting-internet-freedom-with-open-source-chat

We don't give any money to RocketChat nor Nextcloud, we offer Services around. We host it, backup it, secure it, and provision an https certificate for you.

Of course as a free software user, you are also free to run it on your own hardware at home and so on, we are not against it, quiet the contrary. We believe Internet should be decentralized and people should host at home. Freedombox is not there yet, yunohost is great, but it is still difficult to do it at home, especially email, so we are a workaround in the meantime. And for some use case, it is better to use us than having a server at home, if you are afraid that somebody breaks into your house and cease your server for instance.
We also plan to work with these projects to offer services to the end user, like encrypted backup on our infrastructure, possibility to migrate from one to the other and vice versa.

We don't give money to the free software we host, but we give something even more valuable, brain time.
I am personally helping to make official docker image for RocketChat, Nextcloud, Piwik, Mattermost, ownCloud, known.
The market value of this donation is many k€.
We also report bugs, feature request and so on, just check my [github account](https://github.com/pierreozoux/), 1,112 contributions last year. Again, the market price value of this is many k€.

On top of that, all our infrastructure, and recipes are also free software. You can find it here: http://libre.sh. I don't know any other hoster doing that. But actually we help some to use libre.sh, we helped libre-a-toi for instance.
We maintain a list of hosters with the same mind set here: https://github.com/indiehosters/awesome-librehosters but actually, I'm not sure any of them is publishing its infra, the way we do.

Ah, and we respect these manifestos: https://github.com/indiehosters/website/issues/62

Ah! And I almost forgot, we have open/libre finance also, here you can find some documents:
https://github.com/indiehosters/documents/blob/master/newsletter/December15.md

I'm part time on this project, and in 2015, we made 2,396€ benefits. so if you count 1,040hours per year (part time, I think I'm way above), it means, my hourly rate is... a lot lower than market value...

So it means, either we are too cheap, or we don't know how to manage. But please, it is libre, so if you know a way to improve, please let us know! But I believe we just need more users actually :)

Pierre

PS: if you eat your sarcasms, could you make a video of it? :P